VfL Wolsburg - Kuzeyden gelen darbe

[LeoN48]

2. yarıya daha atak bir dizilim ve anlayışla çıkıyoruz, Jenssen'in yerine Kweuke ile forveti ikiledik.. Sinyor Terim stili ''Allah yardımcınız olsun aslanlarım!!'' diyerek 2. yarıya başlıyoruz..

[LeoN48]

Maalesef 3-1 Farklı bişeyler deniycem..

[romelon]

65 .Dakika 2 tane kaleyi bulan var dönmesi çok zor gözüküyor hocam ama inş. çevirrisin

[LeoN48]

Maalesef knock-out oluyoruz.. Son golü sinirimden koymadım.. Umarım bu kısır pozisyon sayım sadece oyuncu eksikliklerimle ilgilidir, ama ben hiç öyle sanmıyorum.. Güncellemeden sonraki 2. maçım, ve ikisinde de şut sayım güncelleme öncesi ortalamama göre 70% civarı azaldı..

[romelon]

Kesinlikle güncellemeyle alakalı hocam ,

[romelon]

Şu an oynamış olduğum kasımpaşa maçının ilk yarısı

[LeoN48]

Başlarım böyle güncellemeye.. Tadı kaçtı bu işin, biz günlerimizi verelim takımı adam edicez diye, tam işler rayına girsin, zort ordan saçmasapan bir güncelleme ile herşey tepetaklak olsun.. 2-3 maç daha yapıcam, eğer aynı saçmalık devam ederse age of empires II'ye dönerim..

[LeoN48]

3 maç yaptım, aynı mantıksızlıklar devam ediyor.. Adam gibi herşey düzeltilene kadar oynamıyorum arkadaşlar, ilginiz için teşekkürler..

[Ulgio]

Haklısın kardeş,bende oyundan soğudum bir süredir oynamıyorum canıma tak etti.
Bu zaten son olarak orjinal aldığım FM dir.Parayı haketmiyorlar kusura bakmasın kimse...

[entolik]

Yapma be hocam

[LeoN48]

Haklısın kardeş,bende oyundan soğudum bir süredir oynamıyorum canıma tak etti.
Bu zaten son olarak orjinal aldığım FM dir.Parayı haketmiyorlar kusura bakmasın kimse...

Yapma be hocam

FM12'nin mis gibiydi maç motoru, yapıştır aynını gitsin işte, sırf Türkçe olması bile bizi cezbediyordu oyunu orjinal almak için.. Hadi tamam, belki 1 sezonu harcadık ama alıştık FM13'ün motoruna, ona göre taktiğimizi adapte ettik, hatta ben ilk defa kanatlı sisteme geçtim 11 yıllık FM serüvenimde ilk defa.. Sonra zırt diye herşeyi daha da güzelleştireceğini düşündüğümüz güncelleme, aksine herşeyin içine ediyor.. Oyun efendi olana kadar kanser olmaya niyetim yok arkadaşlar.. Forza age of empires 2

[ReaList]

3 maç yaptım, aynı mantıksızlıklar devam ediyor.. Adam gibi herşey düzeltilene kadar oynamıyorum arkadaşlar, ilginiz için teşekkürler..

Yine de iyi dayandın kaptan. Maç motoruyla o kadar uğraştım sistemi adapte etmeye çalıştım güzel bir sistem buldum ve üzerine çalışırken pat yeni güncelleme geldi. Hani bazı şeyler düzelmiş olsa neyse düzelen tek şey fazla pozisyona girmenin engellenmiş olması bu motoru olduğundan daha komik duruma götürdü çünkü bu defa az pozisyon olduğundan dolayı kaleyi bulan şutlar direk gol oluyor : )

[LeoN48]

Yine de iyi dayandın kaptan. Maç motoruyla o kadar uğraştım sistemi adapte etmeye çalıştım güzel bir sistem buldum ve üzerine çalışırken pat yeni güncelleme geldi. Hani bazı şeyler düzelmiş olsa neyse düzelen tek şey fazla pozisyona girmenin engellenmiş olması bu motoru olduğundan daha komik duruma götürdü çünkü bu defa az pozisyon olduğundan dolayı kaleyi bulan şutlar direk gol oluyor : )

Yok patron, mantıkla halledilebilecek durumlar değil karşılaştıklarımız.. Dünyanın saatini harcadık oyunun başında, ona yanıyorum. Çok mu zordu FM12'nin en güncel motorunu oyuna koymak...Aşağıda da İngiliz FM forumundan güncelleme sonrası gözüme çarpan bazı kullanıcı yorumlarını paylaşmak istiyorum..

1. Am I the only one encountering issues in defence since this update? Before the update with my Blackburn team I was sitting in 4th place happily, having beat the likes of Man U 2-0, Liverpool 2-1 and Arsenal 1-0, also getting a nice 1-1 draw away to city however since the update my defence now seems to be conceding anywhere between 2 - 4 goals per game. Im still scoring however my better strikers are now missing more clear cut chances and my centre backs have a tendancy to hold onto the ball for too long even though they are set not to hold up ball. I have now dropped down to 9th having struggling now against the lower teams which I should really be beating.



2. I have played footie manager/champ manager for years but I am on the verge of falling out of love with it now.
I have scored only 8 goals in 16 games with the new update version database and in too many matches the opposition scores in the last minute or the opposition keeper has the game of his life.
I totally get the arguments about the game being more realistic that you have to constantly change your tactics to suit the opposition but it is a computer game - real life is entirely different.
I just want the old FM back, but I fear that it has gone for ever and evolved into something that can no longer be enjoyed but endured


3. It still produces several weird fuck ups per game. Strange own goals, wingers walking the ball into the net from the byline, strikers seemingly unwilling to strike at the ball in front of a half-open net, etc. These sort of things destroy the immersion and believability of the match engine. They can improve the foundations as much as they want, as long as these things are still in there, and they very much are with my own eyes as witnesses, then it doesn't matter. FM12 had all but eliminated these incidents. They're back in full force here. No doubt once they eliminate those, we will end up with a superior match engine, but it just isn't there at the moment.


4. Can anyone tell me if this has been addressed, so I know if I can be bothered picking up this game anymore:

-players who instantly upon receiving the ball turn their back on direction of play and opponents
-players on 6-yard line with clear shot turning the ball back to someone 20+ yards out
-players constantly finishing from a 90 degree angle to the goal instead of playing the 45 degree out to the 3 players avilable (as opposed to what they do in my point above)
-players around the 18-yard line who turn play all the way back to own keeper
-full backs who upon receiving the ball stop dead and stand there waiting to be disposessed by opponent with subsequent clear run.
-players who randomly run past the ball instead of catching it, leaving opponent clear run on goal.
-goalkeeper standing frozen still, shot going through him into net
-goalkeeper not so much throwing himself where he stands as just collapsing, not after the ball
-overload, pump ball into box, get ball forward, 2 mins left = pissing about own side of midfield playing 5-a-side.
-same as above, goal down, going for Guinness record possesion 30 yards out, not chasing equaliser.
-passing style apparently not effecting anything at all how one passes the ball.
-defenders, despite man mark, get stuck in, max closing down - standing around 3-4 of them watching the ball in own area instead of clearing it, leaving lone striker to score.
-same settings as above = stand off, stand off, stand off, back to own 6 yard line. Shot from 18 and goal against.
-player spending best part of the half to turn direction to own goal on breakdown, leaving lone striker clear run on goal.
-and MOST of all, yet again exaggerating influence of tactics to the point one has to spend 3 months IRL (not in-game time) tweaking, tweaking, tweaking tactics without getting nowhere. Even my club managed to get a 3rd place by spending enough millions on individuals, despite having the leagues most clueless tactician EVER for a manager!
How large a portion of customers are that nerdy in their approach to the game to accept that? It kills ALL playability. You end up not giving a crap about any other aspects of the game than tweaking tactics between every match.

I've played this series since CM93. And all this bullshit I've just listed is the reason I left it in 2007, as in my opinion, the game is utter shit. They peaked with 01/02, and ever since it's been nothing but downhill. The solution is to pound on functionality after functionality for "depth" to call it "realistic", yet playability is diminished year after year, and SI aren't clueing up at all!

[nessus]

İşten güçten yazmayı unuttum, keşke bırakmasaydın hacı. Haklısın eyvallah, haklıyız aslında. Koca koca adamlar işi gücü bırakıp futbol sevgisinden bir sürü zaman yiyoruz oyun başında. Hani yaptığına değiyor mu sorusu hep akılda kalıyor. Ama yine de oyun işte. Bana baksana menajerlik oyuncuları hayatımda bir kere 6-0 yenildim o da sizlerin önünde oldu Arada gelip arkadaşlar averaj takımına dönmeyelim bu sene yazınca iş keyifli hale geliyor. (Ki ben ilk yenilgide hemen oyunu kapatırım, hiç tahammülüm yoktur :P)

Hee yaptıklarımızın heyecanımızın karşılığını alamıyoruz ama olsun nabalım. Ben zaten ŞLigini asla kazanamıycam Sen de kazanma la kıskanırım

[nessus]

Yok patron, mantıkla halledilebilecek durumlar değil karşılaştıklarımız.. Dünyanın saatini harcadık oyunun başında, ona yanıyorum. Çok mu zordu FM12'nin en güncel motorunu oyuna koymak...Aşağıda da İngiliz FM forumundan güncelleme sonrası gözüme çarpan bazı kullanıcı yorumlarını paylaşmak istiyorum..

1. Am I the only one encountering issues in defence since this update? Before the update with my Blackburn team I was sitting in 4th place happily, having beat the likes of Man U 2-0, Liverpool 2-1 and Arsenal 1-0, also getting a nice 1-1 draw away to city however since the update my defence now seems to be conceding anywhere between 2 - 4 goals per game. Im still scoring however my better strikers are now missing more clear cut chances and my centre backs have a tendancy to hold onto the ball for too long even though they are set not to hold up ball. I have now dropped down to 9th having struggling now against the lower teams which I should really be beating.



2. I have played footie manager/champ manager for years but I am on the verge of falling out of love with it now.
I have scored only 8 goals in 16 games with the new update version database and in too many matches the opposition scores in the last minute or the opposition keeper has the game of his life.
I totally get the arguments about the game being more realistic that you have to constantly change your tactics to suit the opposition but it is a computer game - real life is entirely different.
I just want the old FM back, but I fear that it has gone for ever and evolved into something that can no longer be enjoyed but endured


3. It still produces several weird fuck ups per game. Strange own goals, wingers walking the ball into the net from the byline, strikers seemingly unwilling to strike at the ball in front of a half-open net, etc. These sort of things destroy the immersion and believability of the match engine. They can improve the foundations as much as they want, as long as these things are still in there, and they very much are with my own eyes as witnesses, then it doesn't matter. FM12 had all but eliminated these incidents. They're back in full force here. No doubt once they eliminate those, we will end up with a superior match engine, but it just isn't there at the moment.


4. Can anyone tell me if this has been addressed, so I know if I can be bothered picking up this game anymore:

-players who instantly upon receiving the ball turn their back on direction of play and opponents
-players on 6-yard line with clear shot turning the ball back to someone 20+ yards out
-players constantly finishing from a 90 degree angle to the goal instead of playing the 45 degree out to the 3 players avilable (as opposed to what they do in my point above)
-players around the 18-yard line who turn play all the way back to own keeper
-full backs who upon receiving the ball stop dead and stand there waiting to be disposessed by opponent with subsequent clear run.
-players who randomly run past the ball instead of catching it, leaving opponent clear run on goal.
-goalkeeper standing frozen still, shot going through him into net
-goalkeeper not so much throwing himself where he stands as just collapsing, not after the ball
-overload, pump ball into box, get ball forward, 2 mins left = pissing about own side of midfield playing 5-a-side.
-same as above, goal down, going for Guinness record possesion 30 yards out, not chasing equaliser.
-passing style apparently not effecting anything at all how one passes the ball.
-defenders, despite man mark, get stuck in, max closing down - standing around 3-4 of them watching the ball in own area instead of clearing it, leaving lone striker to score.
-same settings as above = stand off, stand off, stand off, back to own 6 yard line. Shot from 18 and goal against.
-player spending best part of the half to turn direction to own goal on breakdown, leaving lone striker clear run on goal.
-and MOST of all, yet again exaggerating influence of tactics to the point one has to spend 3 months IRL (not in-game time) tweaking, tweaking, tweaking tactics without getting nowhere. Even my club managed to get a 3rd place by spending enough millions on individuals, despite having the leagues most clueless tactician EVER for a manager!
How large a portion of customers are that nerdy in their approach to the game to accept that? It kills ALL playability. You end up not giving a crap about any other aspects of the game than tweaking tactics between every match.

I've played this series since CM93. And all this bullshit I've just listed is the reason I left it in 2007, as in my opinion, the game is utter shit. They peaked with 01/02, and ever since it's been nothing but downhill. The solution is to pound on functionality after functionality for "depth" to call it "realistic", yet playability is diminished year after year, and SI aren't clueing up at all!

durum bu kadar umutsuz ha?

[servet17]

ya sizde nasıl crush drump hatası vermiyoda oynuyonuz ne güzel oyunu bende veriyo ya ne olur yardım edin ya bi çaresi varsa söylein lütfen be kardeşlerim :Ssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

[LeoN48]

ya sizde nasıl crush drump hatası vermiyoda oynuyonuz ne güzel oyunu bende veriyo ya ne olur yardım edin ya bi çaresi varsa söylein lütfen be kardeşlerim :Ssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

Geçen yıl orjinal oyun olmadığı için diyorlardı, şimdi orjinalde de çıkınca windows'a bk atılmaya başlandı, çaresi yok..


Arkadaşlar, Steam'den FM 12'yi satın aldım, (geçen yıl orj'i oynamadığımdan sürekli hata veriyordu) 14.95 $'a düşmüş fiyatı, şu an iniyor, ordan yeni kariyer açıp devam edicem, tavsiyem FM 13 ile kanser olmadan şimdilik sizler de bırakın..

[vivoperlei]

Kariyer sahibi iki hafta boyunca mesaj atmadığı için konu kapatılmıştır.